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> Big PS3 Midnight Launch in Paris: 60 PS3s Sold
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post Mar 23 2007, 06:07 AM
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Big PS3 Midnight Launch in Paris: 60 PS3s Sold
Posted by XanTium | 23-3-2007 0:07 EST

 
The guys over at journaldugamer.com report about the PS3 Midnight Launch in Paris, close to the Eiffel tower.
With less than 100 consoles sold out of the 1000 units available you can probably talk about another PR disaster for our friends at Sony. Actually it looks like the most entertaining part of the 'event' was Microsoft crashing the party with a boat on the Seine (river) with a huge banner saying "Xbox 360 Loves You" for all PS3 buyers and press to see.

Some pictures by journaldugamer.com:
PS3 Launch in Paris
The Eiffel Tower, the Xbox360 boat and the PS3 event in the back
PS3 Launch in Paris
21h50 ... almost noone in line yet
PS3 Launch in Paris
22h45: ... 2nd time the Xbox360 boats passes right in front of the PS3 event ... u can also see a video of this here.
PS3 Launch in Paris
00h09: First PS3 sold! ... but there's about 3x more press than customers. The 1st buyer tells the press he bought the PS3 for the Blu-ray drive and HD, but in the 1st place to install Linux on it...
PS3 Launch in Paris
00h39: All customers in line got their PS3 ... 39mins after opening the shop they have to close back already. ~60 PS3s sold about 940 left in stock.


It's a cold Thursday night of course in europe ... so it's maybe not the best day to do a midnight launch (kids got school, people have to work (to get those 600eurs)) ... I hope for Sony they'll do better during the day.
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post Mar 23 2007, 06:26 AM
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That shit is just sad, really really sad. sad.gif
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post Mar 23 2007, 06:32 AM
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this is tooo funny
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post Mar 23 2007, 07:33 AM
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Customers are a bit smarter that's all.
Why miss a good night of sleep and catch a cold?

Also the primary customers are not kids or kids parents, but adults.
And many are interested in programming Cell processor and its SPE's
(by the way, the 5th course for programming is available on IBM site:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/powe...pa-linuxps3-5/)
So I don't see why they would line up at midnight (also all people that absolutely wanted a ps3 pre-ordered it and will receive it by postal).

Actually if there is no money to do on ebay, you can't expect tons of people lining up at a launch. I think it's a great day because next launches, maybe, will be done in a more common sense way (not at midnight).

There are also all the people who will try to import a non mutilated ps3... (games are region free, only blue discs movies are region specifics with many US release already having multiple language tracks and available before EU)

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post Mar 23 2007, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(openxdkman @ Mar 23 2007, 06:40 AM) *

Actually if there is no money to do on ebay, you can't expect tons of people lining up at a launch.


I disagree - if there's no money to do on Ebay, people won't be buying them on Ebay. Therefore the only place will either be online or at midnight launches. I must admit, I expected more than 60 units to go...
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post Mar 23 2007, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(openxdkman @ Mar 23 2007, 02:40 PM) *

Customers are a bit smarter that's all.
Why miss a good night of sleep and catch a cold?


Maybe most customers are smarter thats for sure, however where theres a demand there is always those who want things first. Thats the wonderfull thing with consumerism.
There is no good way to spin that launch for sony, it was a utter failure on their behalf. And to be honest, i think its well deserved
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post Mar 23 2007, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Mar 23 2007, 03:58 AM) *

I disagree - if there's no money to do on Ebay, people won't be buying them on Ebay. Therefore the only place will either be online or at midnight launches. I must admit, I expected more than 60 units to go...

People don't buy new consoles on ebay cause its easy. They buy from there cause it is the only way for them to get one. Since they don't have to rely on ebay cause supply is far greater than demand, people are willing to just buy one when they get around to it. There is no sense of urgency.

The people who are in line on midnight events, want a console then because they either
A) Sell on ebay
B) Buy cause they don't "feel" like any will be left later. Getting 1 now makes me special. And I don't have to spend extra money on ebay to get one now.

Sony took away the sense of urgency by delaying the launch so long and getting the supply so high. With 940 units left out of 1,000, I don't think anybody feels like they need to get 1 now.

So both categories of people don't need to stand in the cold at midnight. There are better things to do.

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post Mar 23 2007, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(throwingks @ Mar 23 2007, 12:05 PM) *

People don't buy new consoles on ebay cause its easy. They buy from there cause it is the only way for them to get one. Since they don't have to rely on ebay cause supply is far greater than demand, people are willing to just buy one when they get around to it. There is no sense of urgency.

The people who are in line on midnight events, want a console then because they either
A) Sell on ebay
B) Buy cause they don't "feel" like any will be left later. Getting 1 now makes me special. And I don't have to spend extra money on ebay to get one now.

Sony took away the sense of urgency by delaying the launch so long and getting the supply so high. With 940 units left out of 1,000, I don't think anybody feels like they need to get 1 now.

So both categories of people don't need to stand in the cold at midnight. There are better things to do.


I don't think you can generalise on the buying habits of ebayers without seeing a demographic. Sure, people buy things on ebay because they are hard to find elsewhere. This doesn't mean it's the only reason.

This was supposed to be a massive event - as you read it, the press were better turned out than the customers. Paris is huge and to only sell 60 at a major launch is disappointing. I don't buy the excuses with 'weather', since plenty of launches have been successful with people standing in the pouring rain.

You missed the third option to the above:

C) They want the console now!

If you've been desperately waiting for something to be released (and it's small enough to be carried home) and you have an opportunity to pick it up at midnight, you'd take it. It shows a lack of urgency to just sit and think "I'll pick one up later". In contrast, the midnight launches of the Harry Potter novels have been excellent with hundreds of people attending. This is for a £10 book which you could have in fact purchased the next day with cash in your wallet. It is nothing like a £430 games console which has probably been saved up for, or at least money put to one side. If you had been waiting four months (and been sitting on the money), wouldn't you want to go get it?

Let's put it another way:

People don't attend midnight launches because:

a) They have no interest in the product
B) They already have the item (imported)
c) There is no profit to be made for online sales
d) They want one, but not enough to stand in cold/wet weather.

If we are to assume that d) is going to be for the majority of PS3 owners, I'd be really disappointed if I were Sony. This was supposed to be an exciting launch, which they could broadcast how good/popular this console is (remember, it's really only a PR stunt after all). If people are happy to wait until the next day (or the weekend), how desirable an item is it? When Gears of War was released, I went out and bought it on the Friday. I didn't wait until the weekend. Not because I thought that stocks would be low, but because I wanted it and had been waiting for it, plain and simple.

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It is also a non holliday launch. Launching a system in November will have a higher demand due to the holiday.
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I just figure no matter what the season is, holiday or not, if people really wanted it they would have turned out. I can see selling close to 1000 and having a few left over, but selling only 60?!?!?! Thats just sad.
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This sets a bad trend for Sony in the future - if FFXIII becomes available for the 360 as well, I'm selling my PS3. I just realized that I've only bought ONE PS3 game since November! blink.gif
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holy crap that's pathetic!

I'd be willing to bet the party on that 360 barge was more exciting laugh.gif

As someone who's waited in line at a few launches, I can say that there are a number of people there who treat it as much as an even as anything else.

That is to say even in my little town in the woods of NH the people standing in line are gamers and there are even people keeping others company with no intent to purchase the console just because it's a cool environment where you get to meet other gamers and talk about your experiences, what you think of the games on the market, what you're looking forward to, etc. etc. etc.

That's how the Xbox 360 launch was for me, the Wii launch had hundreds of people with DSs playing wirelessly with each other and trading advice etc... it was really fun.

I think even if I wasn't going to buy a console at launch but knew a friend who was going to wait in line, I'd keep him company just for an excuse to hang out in an environment like that.

The PS3 launch lineups in my area were most definitely just eBay scalpers though who didn't really care about the console. Walking by a few lines the day of just trying to create small talk and see what people were up to most of them just didn't give a shit about anything "I'm just here to re-sell it on ebay... I don't even play games" was the most common response out of the 30 something people I talked to at a few different locations dry.gif
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QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Mar 23 2007, 07:53 AM) *

holy crap that's pathetic!

I'd be willing to bet the party on that 360 barge was more exciting laugh.gif



well it certainly appears that there were more people on the boat than there were willing to wait in line to buy a ps3. blink.gif


sony should have seen this PR mess coming for days because it is very obvious that demand was not high for this console... simple deduction indicates that if demand for ps3 was as high as it had been for 360 or wii, there would have been people lining up on monday or tuesday. on thursday at 6pm, with no people in line, they should have called it off, or at the very least sent everyone in paris to the same location.


the boat was an excellent example of guerrilla marketing!

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